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Does anyone know the name of the medical conference he was supposedly attending in Scottsdale? There was information that he may have left some of his belongings in the hotel in Scottsdale... I was wondering if he was planning on returning there and flying back home from the Phx Airport.

As of available public information and missing persons records, the specific name of the arthritis-related medical conference List attended in Scottsdale, Arizona in late October 1986 has not been disclosed. However, here are some considerations and possible steps:

  • Professional Affiliations: Given his roles (general practitioner, medical director, and GM medical division head), he likely attended a conference hosted by a major medical association, such as:
  • The American College of Rheumatology
  • A state-level Arizona medical society or continuing education event
  • Timing: The conference would have likely taken place just prior to October 29, so narrowing it to the week of October 26–29, 1986 may help pinpoint the event.

Possible Next Steps:

  • Research archived Scottsdale-area conference center schedules or hotel bookings from October 1986.
  • Contact major rheumatology or general practitioner organizations for conference records from that time.


I've been digging around the case of List's disappearance and something about the timing just puzzles me. It's the gap between his check-out from the Copper Hills Inn on October 29 and then his call on October 30 at 7:00 a.m. Did anyone look into where he could have been for those 25 or so hours? That's a pretty substantial window where anything could have happened, and it's odd that he didn't mention his location during the call with his family on the 30th. Given his position and responsibilities, you'd assume he'd keep everyone informed, especially if something unexpected came up. Also, another thing that caught my attention is his request to renew the malpractice insurance—which is pretty responsible—yet he didn't make it back? Could there be something more to his work or personal life that might've led to an intentional disappearance? Or maybe foul play was involved, and if so, why hasn't a single trace of his renal car turned up in all these years? Would love to hear any thoughts or theories!
Hey everyone, I've been digging into the details of List's disappearance and something's been bugging me about his last known movements. According to the info we have, he checked out of the Copper Hills Inn super early, like 5:35 a.m. on October 29, but then called his family the next day, October 30, at 7:00 a.m. That whole time gap is nearly 24 hours, right? I know he mentioned renewing his malpractice insurance, which seems odd but responsible given his profession, but I wonder why he didn’t specify where he was during that call.
Also, why the urgency on the insurance renewal? Did he know something that made it critical to handle it right then, or was it just routine business for him? And what about his rental car? There’s been no mention of it being found anywhere, which is strange considering it’s such a crucial piece of the puzzle.
Would love to hear what others think about this timeline and his actions related to his work commitments. It's just all very puzzling and seems out of character for someone described as so reliable and devoted. Any thoughts or theories?
Hey all, I was reading about the case of List from 1986, and something got me thinking. Does anyone know if the phone records from those calls he made to his family were ever pulled? I mean, it's a long time ago and tech wasn't what it is now, but getting an exact location or even a general area from where he made that call on October 30 could have been key. With the hotel in Globe being the last concrete place he was sighted, maybe the phone records could have shed some light on his movements after leaving. It's frustrating to think a detail like that could have gone unchecked or was unavailable at that time. Weird how one piece of info could have potentially changed the course of the investigation.